BOOSI JEJANNA

I: Why did you start Praja Rajyam Party?

Chiranjeevi: Being inspired by great social reformers like Mahatma Gandhi, Mahatma Jotiba Govindrao Phule and Dr B R Ambedkar. My idea was to bring social justice into the lives of millions of poor people in Andhra Pradesh first and rest of the nation later slowly. I have great ideals and values. It was a life of imaginations then.

I: Did you think that other political parties failed to achieve those lofty goals in India so far?

Chiranjeevi: Yes. I established myself as a great film actor, social reformer, visionary, dreamer, achiever, martyr, intellectual and thinker struggling hard for 30 years in the Telugu film industry. I thought that God sent me into India to change the lives of all just like that. So, my party was a historical need as such.

I: What kind of people joined your political party?

Chiranjeevi: Rogues and scoundrels of all kinds joined my party because they thought that I am worse than them in many respects. I regret their understanding about me. They stayed with me for some time expecting much from me. Soon they realized that I was expecting more from them. Some jumped out of my playground and some remained with me for some reasons before elections only.

I: What happened after the Assembly Election in 2008 in Andhra Pradesh?

Chiranjeevi: Before elections, my hope was that I would become the chief minister of Andhra Pradesh just like that considering my image as a film star and the madness of my fans in this state. It did not happen. Only 18 fellows are the assets of my party after these elections. I regretted it internally but acted differently outside. I am essentially an actor. I do it until my last breath. In politics also I continue it. So, I told all that defeat and success are common in political games of India. It is my dialogue. In films, others write dialogues for me. In politics, I devise and use my attractive dialogues. Some folks moved out of my party even after this election. Then only I could realize how foolish and stupid I am essentially. Great people can gain and retain others. Ordinary people cannot do it.

I: Good people quit politics when they get hurt due to direct public opinion. You did not do it! Can you bear if I use a very bad word defining your character?

Chiranjeevi: When one is around 60, one’s legs, hip, hands and head do not move fast for dance or fight scenes in real life. Already youth entered the Telugu film industry. Old age was occupying my body and spirit slowly. Then I did not know how to retain my great image as a celebrity. Slowly I realized that anybody can become a celebrity in politics in India with a few lies and many frauds. I entered politics to retain my declining image as a film star but it kept going down even in this field. It happened especially because I collected huge amounts of money from aspiring candidates for MLA and MP positions. I set a figure for these both positions. My reliable agents collected five crore rupees from MP blokes and three crore rupees from MLA rogues. They wanted to earn more money with my support acquiring political power. It did not happen for all. Only successful candidates felt happy and the rest cried in their homes thinking about the bribes they paid me secretly. I must agree that I am essentially a money and fame lover. I do anything for them. People could understand it slowly. I am happy to that extent.

I: You often said that you got inspired by APJ Abdul Kalam to enter politics? You think he is a cheat and corrupt bloke like you!

Chiranjeevi: I used his name to support my intention to enter politics. I know very little about him because he does not belong to my class of people. Why should I bother about him? I often think about such politicians and businessmen, who know how to misguide, cheat and exploit people publicly. Money makes many things. Kalam is bad at this art. He talks about dreams and goals like you. It is the work of lunatics and fools. I am a mega star. I achieve what I want going to any extent. I did it in politics also. Let anybody join or leave my party at any time, I remained quiet and balanced. In politics, you don’t need self-respect or individuality but tactics of opportunism and hypocrisy. We talk about virtues publicly and do nasty things in our homes and offices. This is history. You can read it in books. The problem with me is that I cannot come out of a game once I enter it and fail in it very badly. Do we stop acting in a film if we are not happy with the first half of it which was already shot in many locations investing much money and hope? If we have to get our full amount of remuneration for a film, we should go ahead with it. Let producers live or die. My money is important for me. This is my inevitable tendency and mindset.

I: Why did you mix the dust of your political party in the dustbin of Congress?

Chiranjeevi: Dust particles must be in a dustbin only! This is why I did so. I know that Congress party is like a dirty pond. They extend their helpless hands to even more helpless blokes like me. They want political power like me. A thief likes another gang of thieves. My aim is to earn more fame and money through politics also. The aim of the Congress folks is also the same. Birds of the same feather flock together. If I remain in active field of politics for some time, the media folks focus their lights and cameras on me. Some folks discuss my life and politics here and there. What do I need more than that? I am earning money simultaneously. My close relatives are happy to that extent. They don’t discourage or encourage me in terms of my moves in politics because they know what I am really. I cannot change anybody in this nation and so my achievements as a politician are almost zero. Everybody knows it. Since I cannot accept it immediately before such people, who expected a lot from me when I entered politics, I indulge in such these nasty tricks for some time. I believe I am a star even now. Many are talking about me. It is enough for me. Present dirty celebrities want and enjoy such status of life and profession.

I: You never stopped using the phrase “social justice” ever since you entered politics. Can you explain me what you mean by that and what you did for it so far.

Chiranjeevi: Social justice means rich and energetic people frightening and exploiting poor and weak people around them. I collected money from comparatively poorer folks from me during elections. Congress Party is richer than me. They drop me a little during my association with them. Thus they try to uproot poverty in my life and psyche to some extent. Thus we will try to end poverty in this nation. If I become rich, poverty is defeated to that extent. If my MLAs become rich, poverty is avoided to that extent. Is it not social justice? Why should I bother about poor folks in this nation? They would be there in India as long as Indians are there in it. Some people take birth and die to help and guide them always. Intelligence lies in using the names of such achievers and thus benefitting at our level. This is my hidden agenda. I am an actor in body and spirit. I may talk and do anything to misguide people. Intelligent folks understand me properly and remain away from me. Foolish and stupid blokes allow me to cheat and exploit them in the long run. In India, cheating others is very easy because there are more number of illiterate and ignorant people than intelligent and visionary ones.

I: What do you think about Jaya Prakash Narayan of Lok Satta?

Chiranjeevi: He is an innocent fellow. He wants to teach the Bhagvad Gita to millions of fools and criminals in this nation. Such thinkers and idealists cannot change these people. Only cheats and liars like me can influence people fast. They learn great lessons observing my dirty life in politics and otherwise. Slowly they realize where they are now and where they should go. Before they go there, I will have achieved what I wanted. When a murder or robbery takes place in and around our house, we get alert and take precautionary measures. Do we do so if police teach us lessons and newspapers write on how to keep ourselves safe from these dangers? Indians are like lazy pigs. We must set fire to their tails to awake and reform them instead of making little sounds around them. This is what I am doing now. If I become and behave like a shameless dog as a politician, they reform at their level soon. They do not vote for worthless and brainless idiots like me in future. Is this not a kind of indirect delivery of social justice to my millions of fans and followers across the universe and galaxy?

I: Why do you tour places as a politician now and then?

Chiranjeevi: God gave me everything so far except enough time to spend with really poor and helpless people. They love my image as an actor more than my real life and character. We should visit them when they are living in dreams, fantasies and illusions centered on us. I go here and there to see people like any other typical Indian politician. Even if I distribute all my hard-earned money, can they become comfortable, happy and rich? So, we must understand realities first and act attractively later. This was what I did, am doing and will do. As a celebrity, we can tour places, attracting a few foolish blokes on the way towards our campaign van. You think Y S Jaganmohan Reddy is touring places with love for people and democracy in this nation? It is a useful time pass game for him. He plans to benefit from it when time is in favor of him. I am also such person though I don’t accept it publicly. When I could not understand the sensitive and innocent heart of my little daughter when she went away with a boy of her choice, how can I understand others in this state or nation? Human psychology is too mysterious to understand and comment on. So, what we can do simply is to let others understand what our real psychology is so that some can be friends to us and some enemies behind the screen. We need powerful villains to establish our hero role greatly against them. It is necessary in films and real life. My rivals comment against me. It is my strength indirectly. People know what I am directly. So, the grammar of my life as an actor and politician is solid both in direct and indirect tenses.

I: Don’t you feel ashamed of yourself to degrade to such dirty kind of life even after earning a lot of money and fame as a film actor? Why are you ruining your image to the worst level possible on your own? Are you mad or suffering from some major psychological disorder? Why don’t you consult a psychiatrist?

Chiranjeevi: You write this and that thinking that others change reading it. Do you know whether they changed or not? Still you are doing it because you love it. Similarly, I love this nasty game madly. It is essentially to keep in touch with people. Let them consider me as a bad man or gentleman; I am not bothered about it. They must talk about me just as they did it when I was an active film actor. I am a man of masses. They follow asses always. It is an interesting game altogether. Only insiders can feel and enjoy the essence and power of this dirty game. Let others spit on us. Let them pee on us. Let them call names. Let them live or die due to us. We must keep going as Chandrababu Naidu often says in public places. Going forward is important because we die slowly if we sit somewhere passively. Dynamism beautifies our life. Many talked about Veerappan when he was alive. Nobody is talking about Kalam now because he is not in any active field of dirty acts and plans. Both dictators and idealists have followers and admirers in all ages. What if you treat me as a villain now observing my moves as a politician? Do I lose anything? Opportunists and hypocrites follow me always. I would be a leader to them as long as they are with me. I love that status and feeling. How others write my history after my departure from this stage is not important for me but how I am enjoying my life now. I am happy with it. If you don’t like it, you do something else. Did I ask you to become a politician and spoil and deface your life like me? You know what is good for you. I know what is beneficial and profitable to me. Our ways are different now.

I: I loved you as a great film actor because you acted and danced in many extraordinary films so far. I hate you now because you are not the kind of person now whom I admired once.

Chiranjeevi: Girls love us as bachelors thinking that they may marry us if they find us interesting in course of time. They don’t follow us when they know that we are married. Then they develop a kind of feeling of distance and separation from us. We cannot remain unmarried to be loved and followed by many crazy and lazy girls. We marry some girl minding our present and future. That does not mean we hate them but they don’t understand it that way. They simply remain away from us. Similarly, you loved me as a film actor. You can do it always. Love me as a film actor and hate me as a politician. I am happy with both because I cannot change you just as you cannot change me to your expectations. Kamal Hassan acted in many great love story based films and turned into a classic figure in course of time but his married life disturbs us to a great extent. He does not look as an admirable person from that perspective. So, we should love people part by part, not wholly. We find very few people who possess such features and qualities, which can be loved and admired by many, for long. Unfortunately, I could not continue to be such a person after entering politics. I too don’t know why I became so. I curse myself now and then thinking about all I did so far but I am unable to set it right at this stage of my political game. It’s my fate. Forgive me if you can. We cannot change and build our life as per our interests and goals always. I cannot explain you my sad story now because you developed a bad impression about me according to your terms and principles. We love each other at one level but hate at another level.

I: Do you think that you have a bright political life ahead in association with the Congress Party?

Chiranjeevi: In fact, my admirable political life ended the moment I collected money from many candidates during elections last time. People started discovering the ugly and detestable aspects of my life slowly after this stage of my political career. Thereafter I remained in this game because I did not know how to come out of it immediately. I don’t know if I gain something or not in association with the Congress Party but I can tell you that I lose nothing because of them as there is nothing more to lose in my life. I lost everything already as a politician. Once many admired me as a great film actor but now they hate me because they did not like what I did in politics. Earning and retaining a great image is very difficult. I achieved and retained it as long as I was a film actor. I lost it when I became a politician. Some say it publicly and some talk about it beyond my presence and knowledge. I cannot control them. I entered a dirty game. I remained in it helplessly. I am experiencing the power of that bad effect now. I am just an automated machine now. I don’t know what I am doing and why I am doing so? My destiny is guiding me now without considering the dictates of my passive conscience. I am helpless.

I: You talked about values in your films like ‘Stalin’ and ‘Tagore’ once. Why did you fail to practice them as a politician? Do you think that people cannot distinguish between good and bad people on their own?

Chiranjeevi: I grew as a great film actor due to extraordinary contribution from many great directors, singers, choreographers, lyricists, musicians and producers. I always owe to them. They presented me as a social reformer in many films because they thought that I had such character and I suit such great roles. That credit goes to them, not to me at all, because I failed to be so in my real life. When I look back, I regret my present and celebrate my past. God gave me such life then and threw me into such this mire now. I think our Karma decides how we should live and die. I am subject to it. Common people are intelligent and kind. They appreciate us publicly when we live as heroes but they don’t criticize us so when we turn into villains in course of time and fail to impress them as great persons. When they start blaming and discarding idiots like me publicly, India changes within days. Until then, nobody can change India. Those suffering due to others must change or kill others. Then everybody can be happy.

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I conducted this interview with the subconscious psyche of Telugu film actor Chiranjeevi recently under a huge banyan tree at Manosmin Japatimu, 4000 miles off Chinthasin Island, between 2:00 and 3:00 PM IST. Those unfamiliar with radicopathy should not practice this Spivine Art. I turned into a Boosi Jejanna when conducting and recording this interview with him for you.